{"id":8370,"date":"2015-09-24T08:39:48","date_gmt":"2015-09-24T06:39:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dev.optiweb.com\/?post_type=post&#038;p=8370"},"modified":"2019-09-23T13:49:05","modified_gmt":"2019-09-23T13:49:05","slug":"shopify-vs-magento-cloud-ali-hosted-preprosto-ali-kompleksno","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dev.optiweb.com\/sl\/blog\/shopify-vs-magento-cloud-ali-hosted-preprosto-ali-kompleksno\/","title":{"rendered":"Shopify vs Magento &#8211; Cloud ali hosted &#8211; Preprosto ali kompleksno?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id='av_section_1'  class='avia-section main_color avia-section-default avia-no-shadow avia-bg-style-scroll  avia-builder-el-0  el_before_av_section  avia-builder-el-first   container_wrap fullsize' style=' '  ><div class='container' ><main  role=\"main\" itemprop=\"mainContentOfPage\"  class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-8370'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<section class=\"av_textblock_section \"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock  '   itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Primerjav med Shopify in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/dev.optiweb.com\/sl\/storitve\/spletne-trgovine\/magento\/\">Magento<\/a>\u00a0je mnogo.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.si\/search?q=shopfiy+vs+magento&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;gws_rd=cr&amp;ei=0IMDVsHiKMH1UMWYrYgB#q=shopify+vs+magento\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Po Googlu sode\u010d<\/a>\u00a0\u201cAbout 1,150,000 results\u201d. Vsaj tistih standardnih, kot so \u0161t. artiklov, mese\u010dni stro\u0161ek in podobno. Pri Optiwebu bo primerjava malce druga\u010dna.<\/p>\n<p>Vzeli bomo razli\u010dne spletne trgovine, ki trenutno temeljijo na sistemu Magento in pogledali, ali je mo\u017eno zahtevno spletno trgovino Magento prestaviti na Shopify. Pa za\u010dnimo.<\/p>\n<h2>Multi-store?<\/h2>\n<p>Italijanska trgovina Fitoplus.com nudi proizvode za ljudi ter izdelke za \u017eivali oz. doma\u010de ljubljen\u010dke (fitopets). Znotraj Magenta to ni problem, saj ponuja multi-store, multi-domain in multi-website (B2C in B2B). Multi praktik.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Magento primeri multi-domain, multi-store, multi-jezi\u010dnost ter B2C\/B2B podpora<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Shopify<\/strong><br \/>\n\u017dal ne. Uradni odgovor iz foruma je: You can only have one shop per admin. You cannot manage multiple shops within one login. If you want to sell certain products under another domain, you would need to open another shop to have that item and domain listed. :)\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>Multi-language?<\/h2>\n<p>Pri Magentu lahko dolo\u010dimo jezik za dolo\u010den \u201cStore\u201d ter kateri produkti se bodo prikazali na kateri spletni trgovini oz. \u201cStoru\u201d. Za dolo\u010den store lahko nastavimo specifi\u010dno konfiguracijo, design, module, poseben checkout, karkoli \u017eelimo lahko spremenimo le na dolo\u010denem jeziku, le na dolo\u010deni domeni (npr. nekje prodajamo skenerje, nekje UPS \u2026 vse znotraj enotne administracije).<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section>\n<\/div><\/div><\/main><!-- close content main element --><\/div><\/div><div id='av_section_2'  class='avia-section main_color avia-section-default avia-no-shadow avia-bg-style-scroll  avia-builder-el-2  el_after_av_section  el_before_av_section  galimgsec  container_wrap fullsize' style=' '  ><div class='container' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-8370'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<div  class='avia-image-container  av-styling-  noHover  av-overlay-hover-deactivate   avia-builder-el-3  avia-builder-el-no-sibling  avia-align-center '  itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\"  ><div class='avia-image-container-inner'><div class='avia-image-overlay-wrap'><div class='av-image-caption-overlay'><div class='av-caption-image-overlay-bg' style='opacity:0.4; background-color:#000000; '><\/div><div class='av-image-caption-overlay-position'><div class='av-image-caption-overlay-center' style='color:#ffffff; '><p>Magento \u2013 products \u2013 visible \u2013 per store \u2013 konfiguracija<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><img class='avia_image' src='https:\/\/dev.optiweb.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/24-9-2015-7-42-22-1-1030x203.png' alt='' title='24-9-2015-7-42-22' height=\"203\" width=\"1030\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\"  \/><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><!-- close content main div --><\/div><\/div><div id='av_section_3'  class='avia-section main_color avia-section-default avia-no-shadow avia-bg-style-scroll  avia-builder-el-4  el_after_av_section  el_before_av_section   container_wrap fullsize' style=' '  ><div class='container' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-8370'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<section class=\"av_textblock_section \"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock  '   itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Kaj pa Shopify? Shopify NE omogo\u010da trgovin v ve\u010d jezikih. Edina mo\u017enost je, da imamo dva jezika na enkrat preko\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.shopifyninjas.com\/bilingual-shopify-theme-download-4\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Bilingual Shopify Theme<\/a>. Opozorilo. Shopify ne omogo\u010da nastavitve vidnosti produkta le na dolo\u010den jezik oz. Store, ampak je produkt viden na obeh jezikih.<\/p>\n<h2>Multi-currency<\/h2>\n<p>Shop.ekwb.com ima tri razli\u010dne valute in sicer Europe \u2013 EUR, Australia &amp; NZ \u2013 AUD, Rest of the world \u2013 USD. Pri Magentu je mo\u017eno izbrati ve\u010d konfiguracij.<\/p>\n<p><em>#1 Pretvorba iz primarne cene\/valute v tujo valuto<\/em><br \/>\nLahko je cena zapisana v primarni valuti, nato pa prikazana v razli\u010dnih valutah preko te\u010dajnic. Magento \u017ee v osnovi podpira uvoz te\u010dajev preko\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/merch.docs.magento.com\/ce\/user_guide\/Magento_Community_Edition_User_Guide.html#configuration\/currency-setup.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">WebserviceX<\/a>.\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/github.com\/LimeSoda\/LimeSoda_CurrencyConverter\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Podpira tudi European Central Bank<\/a>, lahko pa dodate tudi\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/twincreations.co.uk\/add-a-magento-currency-exchange-update-service\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">lastno te\u010dajno listo ali jo npr. uvozite iz Slovenske banke<\/a>. Magento je torej multi multi.<\/p>\n<p><em>#2 Razli\u010dna cena glede na valuto<\/em><br \/>\nMagento pa omogo\u010da tudi razli\u010dne cene za posamezno valuto. Optiweb priporo\u010da modul\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/innoexts.com\/currency-pricing\/#.VgOQ1PTeTKM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Currency Pricing<\/a>. V tem primeru se cena za posamezno valuto ne prera\u010duna iz te\u010dajnih listov, ampak je fiksno dolo\u010dena v administraciji.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section>\n\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><!-- close content main div --><\/div><\/div><div id='av_section_4'  class='avia-section main_color avia-section-default avia-no-shadow avia-bg-style-scroll  avia-builder-el-6  el_after_av_section  el_before_av_section  galimgsec  container_wrap fullsize' style=' '  ><div class='container' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-8370'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<div  class='avia-image-container  av-styling-  noHover  av-overlay-hover-deactivate   avia-builder-el-7  avia-builder-el-no-sibling  avia-align-center '  itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\"  ><div class='avia-image-container-inner'><div class='avia-image-overlay-wrap'><div class='av-image-caption-overlay'><div class='av-caption-image-overlay-bg' style='opacity:0.4; background-color:#000000; '><\/div><div class='av-image-caption-overlay-position'><div class='av-image-caption-overlay-center' style='color:#ffffff; '><p>Magento cene glede na valuto<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><img class='avia_image' src='https:\/\/dev.optiweb.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Magento-cene-glede-na-valuto-1.jpg' alt='' title='Magento-cene-glede-na-valuto' height=\"132\" width=\"607\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\"  \/><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><!-- close content main div --><\/div><\/div><div id='av_section_5'  class='avia-section main_color avia-section-default avia-no-shadow avia-bg-style-scroll  avia-builder-el-8  el_after_av_section  el_before_av_section   container_wrap fullsize' style=' '  ><div class='container' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-8370'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<section class=\"av_textblock_section \"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock  '   itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Shopify je tukaj bolj omejen. Podpira prikaz cene glede na razli\u010dne valute s pomo\u010djo te\u010dajnic, vendar je na zadnjem koraku prikaz v primarni valuti. Tudi pla\u010dilo bo mo\u017eno le preko primarne valute.<\/p>\n<h2>GEO IP Filtering<\/h2>\n<p>Shop.ekwb.com ter Stadionshop.com uporabljata GEO IP filtering, da stranke preusmerijo na dolo\u010den jezik\/dr\u017eavo\/valuto. Magento to omogo\u010da preko razli\u010dnih modulov (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.magentocommerce.com\/magento-connect\/geoip-block-ip-country-or-region.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#1<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.fmeextensions.com\/magento-geo-ip-ultimate-lock.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#2<\/a>,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.magentocommerce.com\/magento-connect\/geo-ip-store-view-switcher.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">#3<\/a>). Pri Optiwebu smo za EKWB.com uporabili\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.maxmind.com\/en\/geoip-demo\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">MAXMind GeoIp bazo<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Kaj pa Shopify? Shopify tukaj ne zaostaja! Obstaja\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.shopifyninjas.com\/country-selector\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Country Selector<\/a>, ki omogo\u010da, da stranko preusmerimo na razli\u010dne Shopify store glede na IP.<\/p>\n<h2>Group \/ Tier pricing<\/h2>\n<p>Magento omogo\u010da cene za razli\u010dne skupine, hkrati pa tudi podporo za \u201cTier pricing\u201d. Npr. v primeru, da nekdo naro\u010di 5 artiklov, je cena X. V primeru nakupa 10 artiklov, je cena Y. \u010ce uporabljate Multi-valute preko modula Currency Pricing, lahko za Group in Tier pricing dolo\u010dite cene tudi glede na valuto.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section>\n\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><!-- close content main div --><\/div><\/div><div id='av_section_6'  class='avia-section main_color avia-section-default avia-no-shadow avia-bg-style-scroll  avia-builder-el-10  el_after_av_section  el_before_av_section  galimgsec  container_wrap fullsize' style=' '  ><div class='container' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-8370'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<div  class='avia-image-container  av-styling-  noHover  av-overlay-hover-deactivate   avia-builder-el-11  avia-builder-el-no-sibling  avia-align-center '  itemprop=\"image\" itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/ImageObject\"  ><div class='avia-image-container-inner'><div class='avia-image-overlay-wrap'><div class='av-image-caption-overlay'><div class='av-caption-image-overlay-bg' style='opacity:0.4; background-color:#000000; '><\/div><div class='av-image-caption-overlay-position'><div class='av-image-caption-overlay-center' style='color:#ffffff; '><p>Magento \u2013 Tier pricing \u2013 Group pricing<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><img class='avia_image' src='https:\/\/dev.optiweb.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/24-9-2015-8-21-55-1.png' alt='' title='24-9-2015-8-21-55' height=\"327\" width=\"703\"  itemprop=\"thumbnailUrl\"  \/><\/div><\/div><\/div>\n\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><!-- close content main div --><\/div><\/div><div id='av_section_7'  class='avia-section main_color avia-section-default avia-no-shadow avia-bg-style-scroll  avia-builder-el-12  el_after_av_section  avia-builder-el-last   container_wrap fullsize' style=' '  ><div class='container' ><div class='template-page content  av-content-full alpha units'><div class='post-entry post-entry-type-page post-entry-8370'><div class='entry-content-wrapper clearfix'>\n<section class=\"av_textblock_section \"  itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/BlogPosting\" itemprop=\"blogPost\" ><div class='avia_textblock  '   itemprop=\"text\" ><p>Shopify ne ponuja toliko mo\u017enosti kot Magento. Shopify v osnovi podpira\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/docs.shopify.com\/manual\/your-store\/discounts\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Discount codes<\/a>za razli\u010dne stranke. V primeru, da potrebujete ve\u010d kot to, Shopify priporo\u010da odprtje nove trgovine \u201cWholesale\u201d, kamor\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/docs.shopify.com\/support\/your-store\/discounts\/can-i-offer-wholesale\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">skopirate vse produkte in dolo\u010dite druge cene<\/a>. V primeru, da bi potrebovali \u0161e razli\u010dne cene glede na razli\u010dne skupine strank, pa obstaja\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/apps.shopify.com\/customer-pricing\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Customer pricing modul<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>Shopify vs Magento \u2013 je Magento res bolj\u0161i?<\/h2>\n<p>Odvisno, kaj \u017eelimo. \u010ce potrebujemo SLO\/CRO\/X jezik trgovino, razne view store ter razli\u010dne domene\/pod-domene v enotni administraciji, cene glede na valuto, skupine strank, napredni GEO Ip Filtering, Cross Border EU VAT validacija \u2026 potem Magento! Kadarkoli si za\u017eelimo kot dodelavo. Ni problema.<\/p>\n<p>\u010ce pa \u017eelimo dokaj out-of-the-box re\u0161itev in podporo za en (1) jezik, ki je v Shopify v osnovi dobro podprt, cenej\u0161o zadevo in la\u017eje vzdr\u017eevanje, potem je Shopify prava izbira. Zavedati pa se moramo, da Shopify ne podpira npr. Monete in podobno (SLO specifi\u010dno).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Magento je zver<\/strong>, ki jo je treba ukrotiti, da deluje ODLI\u010cNO. Nizek prora\u010dun in dolga specifikacija bosta pri Magento vodila v pol-izdelek, ki nikoli ne bo dobro deloval. Nivo znanja, ki ga Magento potrebuje, je namre\u010d tako visok, da za 2000 \u20ac (celotna vrednost projekta) ni mogo\u010de dobiti ekipe dobrega programerja\/oblikovalca, ki bo naredila TOP trgovino s precej moduli TER jo pravilno vzdr\u017eevala\/nadgrajevala na mese\u010dni ravni.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Kdaj Shopify<\/strong>? Zagotovo takrat, ko smo na za\u010detku poti in ne potrebujemo kaj dosti dodelav\/razli\u010dnih cen in valut\/cene za B2B\/B2C. Pa tudi v primeru, \u010de smo preve\u010d tehni\u010dni tip in se bomo, namesto marketinga, ukvarjali le z Magentom, ker nam in\u017eenirska \u017eilica ne bo dala miru in bomo stalno hoteli \u0161e ta in ta in ta modul. V tem primeru raje naredimo preprosto trgovino Shopify (mese\u010dni stro\u0161ek xx \u20ac) in ostali del sredstev za razvoj Magenta usmerimo v marketing. Bomo bolj uspe\u0161ni!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.internetmojster.com\/cms\/magento-vs-shopify.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Nekaj besed sem zapisal tudi na Internetmojster.com forumu<\/a>, kjer so svoje mnenje\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.internetmojster.com\/cms\/magento-vs-shopify.html#p272277\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">dodali \u0161e ostali uporabniki<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Kaj pa Prestashop, Opencart in Woocommerce? To bomo pregledali v kratkem.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/section>\n\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Primerjav med Shopify in Magento je mnogo. Pri Optiwebu bo primerjava malce druga\u010dna. 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